2 factions dominated by 2 matriarchs
Somehow, that comes as no surprise (not sure how, of course - maybe somthing to do with kings and king makers!)
Bill.
Bungi Bill
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When did the arrangement change from congregation servant to elders
by Deceived indoes anyone remember when the arrangement changed from having 1 congregation servant to the body of elders arrangement.. i have been out of the religion for so long i am getting a little rusty on the changes that happened.
i am writing down my memoirs and right now i am recounting my teenage years as the daughter of a congregation servant.
there was a big change in our family life when i was 15 because of the change in the arrangement.
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When did the arrangement change from congregation servant to elders
by Deceived indoes anyone remember when the arrangement changed from having 1 congregation servant to the body of elders arrangement.. i have been out of the religion for so long i am getting a little rusty on the changes that happened.
i am writing down my memoirs and right now i am recounting my teenage years as the daughter of a congregation servant.
there was a big change in our family life when i was 15 because of the change in the arrangement.
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Bungi Bill
The "elder" arrangement was instituted with the beginning of the "1973 Service Year", which actually began on 1 September, 1972.
At least some old Congregation Servants were not happy about the prospect of power sharing. I recall in one of the congregations in Ipswich (Queensland, Australia) where the former Congregation Servant only recommended himself:
- then went on year in, year out without ever recommending anybody else.
He got away with that for nearly four years.
Bill.
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Pit Bull Mauls 2 Jehovah's Witness Door to Door
by Shanagirl inclick here: pit bull mauls 2 jehovah's witnesses - "it was biting her head, calves, stomach" - youtube what a horrifying thing to happen to these two women.
shana
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Bungi Bill
piztjw,
Your barbs about "concealed dogs" are noted!
However, I was talking only about home invasions, in which case I would have thought an openly displayed weapon would be a more effective deterrent.
I know personally two people who have been shot as a result of criminal activity, and both were carrying a concealed firearm ( a Glock 9mm automatic):
- which both of them knew how to use, being regular competitors at the local pistol shooting club.
All that, though, still did not render them bullet proof!
Conversely, although living for many years in what was a veritable cesspit of violent crime, I never had any home invasion issues while I had a pair of guard dogs loose in the yard.
I sometimes think the Australian country singer John Williamson may have had a point in a verse in one of his songs, that "the way to get shot is to carry a gun."
My five cents worth, anyway!
(Incidentally, I am not anti firearms. On the farm, I grew up around things and still have three rifles in my possession - small bore shooting being one of my hobbies. From my experiences, though, I am also well aware of their limitations).
Bill.
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Pit Bull Mauls 2 Jehovah's Witness Door to Door
by Shanagirl inclick here: pit bull mauls 2 jehovah's witnesses - "it was biting her head, calves, stomach" - youtube what a horrifying thing to happen to these two women.
shana
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Bungi Bill
Having grown up around farms, I was never afraid of dogs:
- UNTIL ....... an event occurred, not while engaged in the D2D work, but while working as a delivery driver.
The client was what today would be called a "Convenience Store", and unbeknown to me, kept a man-eating dog on the premises.
Suffice to say, 38 years later, I still have the scars!
Bill.
PS: Having later worked for a time in the security industry, then later again lived in a crime-ridden Third World Country, I am a great fan of keeping a guard dog. Generally recognised as the single most effective measure that you can take to deter intruders.
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Nephew Giving Once-Big-Shot-Elder Financial Aid
by snowbird inmy nephew is a graduate of an alabama university and harvard.. he didn't listen to the warnings about seeking higher education, and has a good job.. the elder sunk himself trying to keep his son, who did not apply himself in school, out of prison.. it's a sad situation, but it shows how foolish the wt's directives can be.. sylvia.
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Bungi Bill
Being a typical deluded, brain-washed JW, this elder probably rationalises what is going under by kidding himself that "Jehovah provides" and that"God works in mysterious ways."
Bill.
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JW's Never Closed the Door On A Russian King of the North
by scotoma inking of the north.
union, the "king of the south" can be none other than the rival non-communist bloc, under the .
so who is the king of the north now?
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Bungi Bill
But then why should we care about the reasoning of the Watchtower books?
Never a truer word spoken!
Bill.
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JW's Never Closed the Door On A Russian King of the North
by scotoma inking of the north.
union, the "king of the south" can be none other than the rival non-communist bloc, under the .
so who is the king of the north now?
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Bungi Bill
In 1981 the story remained the same: Watchtower July 15 Pages 5-7
The Power Struggle-What Outcome?
There can be no doubt that the modern-day "king of the north" is the Communist bloc, headed by
the Soviet Union.There, to start with is a fallacious statement uttered by Crazy Fred.
The "Communist block" was NOT "headed by the Soviet Union":
- Yugoslav communism always was entirely independent of the Soviet Union.
- The Chinese communists received little help from the Soviet Union during their struggle against the Chinese Nationalists. Mao definitely did not take orders from Stalin at any time, and by the early 1960s, had completely fallen out with the USSR (with Chinese and Soviet troops even exchanging fire across their common border in 1969).
- Likewise, the communists in Vietnam very much did their own thing, with little regard to taking any orders from either China or the USSR . They accepted whatever aid (in the form of supplies) that the other communist countries would give them, but that was all. Henry Kissinger, also, suffered from Fred Franz's delusions about Soviet "leadership" - thinking that by making friends with China and the USSR ("detente"), he could get these powers to influence North Vietnam into making a favorable peace deal with the USA.
If Mad Freddie Franz got off to a fallacious start with this fairy tale about the Kings of the North and South, no wonder the rest of it proved to be a crock!
Bill.
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What do you love about being a JW?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, share what you love about the truth!.
we know that the gb or anything else in the truth is all true and nothing is false!.
love u guys xxx.
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Bungi Bill
THE TEN BEST THINGS ABOUT BEING A JW:
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Certainly from my experience, anyway! (over 28 years)
Bill
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What do you love about being a JW?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, share what you love about the truth!.
we know that the gb or anything else in the truth is all true and nothing is false!.
love u guys xxx.
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Bungi Bill
You've got to be bloody joking!
Bill
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Why are they still going door to door?
by Euphemism inhey all, long time no see!.
a friend posted the anthony morris videos on facebook today, and the ensuing conversation got me wondering: why are the jws still going door-to-door in the developed world?.
it's clearly useless as an evangelizing tactic; the wt have recognized that for 20 years, with their "go where the people are" spiel, but they also insist that it's still necessary.. .
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Bungi Bill
If they truly believed their own propaganda about a calamitous event that was about to engulf the whole world "soon", the GB / WTS would surely use a more effective method to warn people. Sending volunteers to knock on the doors of (mostly) empty houses is no way to sound an "urgent" warning - certainly if this warning is a surgent as the GB would have us believe.
In our community, we can only be thankful that the emergency services used more effective warning measures during this summer's bushfires!
No, the D2D serves as nothing more that a stick with which to beat the R&F with.
A corollary to this is that, in all probability, even the GB know they are talking BS (as has already been discussed on another thread)
Bill.